HORTON KIRBY AND SOUTH DARENTH PARISH COUNCIL

 

 

 

MINUTES of the MEETING of the PARISH COUNCIL held on 7 March 2005 in the Village Hall, South Darenth at 7.30 pm.

 

Present: Cllr P Bradley (Chairman),

    Cllrs A Burchmore,  D Payne, G Piller, M Powsey,  G Tripp, R Valentine and I Wescombe

 

P McGarvey, District Councillor

D Brazier, County Councillor,

PCSO Peter Hylands

Sgt Peter Smith

10 members of the public

 

 

In attendance: C Allart, Parish Clerk

Apologies for absence:  None (though it was noted that Cllr D Snape might not be aware that the meeting, cancelled earlier in the day, had been reinstated)

Declarations of Interest: None

 

 

162        POLICE MATTERS

 

There was discussion with the PCSO and his managing officer, Sgt Smith about work schedules and Sgt Smith agreed that PCSO Hylands would provide this information

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163        MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING

 

RESOLVED that the Minutes of the meeting held on 7 February 2005 be approved and signed as a correct record.

 

 

164        MATTERS ARISING

 

Works at 56 School Lane

 

The clerk reported that no planning permission was required for the works taking place.

 

Lullingstone Visitor Centre

 

KCC councillor David Brazier reported that a press statement, released today, explained that the centre would remain open, run by KCC.   He said that the present staff will be retained and KCC hoped to break even in 3 years.

                           

 

165        MINUTES OF THE WESTMINSTER FIELD ADVISORY COMMITTEE

 

Horses being Washed in the River

 

There was some discussion on this occurrence which was still taking place regularly in Franks Lane though no further incidents had been seen in Westminster Field.  Empty washing up liquid bottles were often found discarded in the lane but water sampling by the Environment Agency had not shown any adverse effects on the water.  It was agreed that the works to the picnic area should proceed subject to the costs involved.

 

RESOLVED that, subject to the proviso on the costs of making the picnic area horse-proof, the Minutes of the Westminster Field Hall Advisory Committee held on 10 February 2005 be approved and adopted.

 

 

166        PCSO PETER HYLANDS’ SUGGESTIONS FOR POSITIVE YOUTH ACTIVITY

 

PCSO Hylands attended the meeting with a young person from South Darenth with ideas to give them something to do.  He explained that they wanted to clean up the Top Paddock and put some large logs and goal posts in there.  The youngsters under the supervision of Peter Hylands would manage the area and make rules.  They wanted to lock the area up at 9 pm.

 

RESOLVED that

·        permission be given for this project to go ahead; and

·        up to £200 be made available for equipment.

 

 

167        WORKS COMMITTEE

 

Members considered a list of items already agreed the clerk had not carried that out due to lack of time. 

 

RESOLVED that

·        a Works Committee comprising Cllrs Bradley, Burchmore, Payne and Piller be appointed to take action to progress items already approved by the parish council; and

·        the Committee will meet monthly and report on progress to the parish council.

 

 

168        SECURITY IN VILLAGE HALL AND PARISH OFFICE

 

It was reported that urgent discussions  need to take place on security in the hall following a break-in overnight on Wednesday 23 February.

 

RESOLVED that the offer from Cllr Valentine to get prices for locks and doors as well as advice from the Police Crime Protection officer be accepted with thanks.

 

 

169        YOUTH CLUB

 

Members were asked to consider whether the youth club should be suspended or whether restrictions should be applied in view of the break-in and the fact that problems and damage are always found on Thursday mornings after the youth club has met on Wednesday evenings.

 

There was some discussion on this matter because, whilst members did not want to penalise local children who were not doing any harm, they needed to protect the building and property.   Cllr Wescombe agreed to visit the club at the next opportunity, with the PCSO, and report back to the next meeting.

 

 

170        PUBLIC PHONE BOX, THE STREET, HORTON KIRBY

 

A request has been made by a resident of Millen Court for support in getting the phone box removed because of the constant vandalism and the way in which it acts as a focal point for young people to congregate and be a nuisance.

 

BT had informed the clerk that the box was not well used but that it could not be removed as there is no other payphone nearby and it is needed to serve the needs of the community.

 

RESOLVED that BT be asked to remove the box.

 

 

171        GRAFFITI

 

1            Removal

It was reported that the Westminster Field Advisory Committee had recommended that the graffiti should be removed from the pavilion by a private firm rather than bother with the Probation Team which had not been very effective.  The Chairman had suggested that this Council should also pay to have graffiti removed from everywhere in the villages, not just parish council property, because of the adverse effect on the environment.

 

RESOLVED that no action be taken on this suggestion at the present time.

 

2            Prosecution

Councillor Valentine reported that some young people have been caught on CCTV in New Road, though not clearly enough to be identified.  However, if improved images are achieved or if offenders are identified, he would like this parish council to agree that the perpetrators should be prosecuted.

 

RESOLVED that

·        the Parish Council would expect the Police to prosecute if they have evidence regarding who has done the graffiti; and

·        PC Laidlow and PCSO Hylands be informed of this.

 

3            Removal Kit

It was reported that Sevenoaks District Council have supplied a kit of chemicals and brushes to loan to the public when dealing with their own small areas of graffiti.  It has been given out on two occasions at no charge.  However, the chemicals are expensive (between £16 and £72 for 5 litres) to replenish.  The clerk asked whether a small charge be made for the use of the kit.

 

RESOLVED that

·        no charge be made for borrowing the kit; and

·        a budget of £150 per annum be allocated to buy replacement chemicals as necessary.

 

 

172        PARISH WARDEN

 

Cllr Valentine suggested that we should apply for a Parish Warden as well having a PCSO.

 

RESOLVED that this be done.

 

 

173        SOUTH DARENTH VILLAGE SOCIETY

 

1                        Town Twinning

 

South Darenth Village Society committee member Nikki Fulford attended the meeting with some details of what was involved in applying for a town twinning partner.  She said there was EU funding to pay for many of the costs and asked for the parish council’s support as this was something that SDVS was keen to do.

 

Some Members wondered whether this was something that would have to be a combined venture with Horton Kirby Village Society and it was agreed that it should be approached.

 

RESOLVED that support be given to further investigations taking place.

 

2                        Lighting of Village Sign

 

South Darenth Village Society committee membes Dave Edmed attended the meeting to ask for permission to illuminate the South Darenth Village Sign.  There would be no cost implications to the parish council and the sign would be lit at the same time as the nearby street lamp.  The Village Society were reminded that planning permission would be required.

 

RESOLVED that no objections be raised to this scheme.

 

 

 

 

 

174        PAPER MILL REDEVELOPMENT LATEST PROPOSALS

 

Cllr Wescombe reported on the latest developments and reminded Members of the public exhibition on Friday, 18 and Saturday 19 March in the village hall.

 

The clerk informed Members that she would be attending a Sevenoaks District Council meeting on 10 March when the Paper Mill redevelopment would be discussed in great detail by representatives of a number of the district council’s partners such as health and education officials.   Cllr Wescombe stated that elected members had been excluded from this meeting and he wished to know why.

 

RESOLVED that a letter be written to Sevenoaks District Council asking why elected representatives from South Darenth and Horton Kirby had been excluded.

 

 

175        LAND AT RAYS HILL/EGLANTINE LANE

 

Members were aware of many rumours circulating that this farmland land is up for sale and a figure of £80,000 has been mentioned.  This is well above the normal rate for agricultural land and there are, of course, fears that travellers will buy the land and then develop it unlawfully.  

 

RESOLVED that the owner be approached to find out the exact situation with the land.

 

 

176        VILLAGES DESIGN STATEMENT

 

A print only version (with no photos because of the large size of the file) had been emailed to all members for their views. One or two amendments were suggested and Philip McGarvey agreed to finalise photos and text with Cllr Burchmore.

 

 

177        INSURANCE

 

Following a claim when a tree in the Top Paddock fell on to a neighbouring fence, Allianz Cornhill had asked about various matters of maintenance and inspection.  Initially they wanted all the council’s trees to have a weekly-recorded inspection.  The Company now want to know if we have had a risk assessment carried out and what arrangements we have for maintaining the trees and inspecting them after periods of severe weather, etc.

 

A year or two ago, Members did offer to inspect trees but I don’t think anything came of this.  Should the Works Committee consider this and put it on a more formal footing? 

 

David Butt, who is in charge of such assessments on the trees in Franks Hall grounds, was at the meeting and explained what he did.  He said there should be a numbering system with each tree tagged and that all trees near the road should be visually inspected once a week.  He defined a tree as anything with a foot of clear stem.  Mr Butt agreed to carry out an initial visit to each of the parish council-owned areas with members.

 

RESOLVED that Mr Butt’s offer be accepted with thanks.

 

 

178        SPEEDWATCH – KENT POLICE

 

The clerk reported that she had recently received a memo from Kent Police concerning the introduction of Speedwatch in the county.  Speedwatch is to be launched in the spring and “parish councils will have to assist in funding”.

 

RESOLVED that  the offer to be involved with Speedwatch be declined on the basis that this Council has no money budgetted for such a scheme.

 

 

179        PLANNING

 

SE/05/00271/FUL and SE/05/00272/LBCALT          

Avenue House, Holmesdale Road

Two houses to be built at the back of Avenue House and demolish an extension to a listed building

 

The Parish Council objects to this application on the grounds that

house 1 fills in the gap between the listed building and the existing modern house in the grounds thus spoiling the setting of the listed building;

house 2 is an ugly building and a high addition to the roof that spoils the setting of the listed building;

the loss of the garage for Avenue House will mean that further building to replace it in the future will spoil the setting of the listed building;

the setting of the listed building will be spoiled by the felling of mature trees and their replacement with non-native eucalyptus; and

the rear boundary as proposed is strange and unneighbourly in that there is a lack of privacy between Avenue House and house 2.

 

 

 

SE/05/00345/LBCALT

The Cottage, Horton Road, Horton Kirby

Repairs to rendering to side elevation

 

The Parish Council has no objections.

 

SE/00423/FUL

Fairhavens Mussenden Lane

Retention of replacement building to be used as an amenity block

 

The Parish Council objects to this application on green belt grounds if this new building is larger than that previously on site as the bathroom (if considered a special purpose) occupies only a small part of the building.

The following decision notices have been received:

 

SE/04/02907/FUL

Mussenden Cottage, Mussenden Lane

Single storey rear extension

GRANTED

 

 

SE/05/00045/FUL

The Cottage, Horton Road, Horton Kirby

New gates to side access drive

REFUSED

 

 

180                REPORTS OF COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES

 

Travellers Meeting arranged by Crockenhill PC

 

Cllr Tripp reported on the joint meeting held recently to discuss the problems of travellers in the area.  It was suggested that there would be more frequent meetings betweent he gypsy officers of Sevenoaks District Council, Dartford Borough Council and London Borough of Bromley so that the problem will hopefully become better managed.  She said that the best people to get in tough with are NALC, CPRE and MPs but that petitions were a waste of time..

 

Philip McGarvey said that a transit site for 8 units / pitches was likely to be provided in the northern part of the Sevenoaks District but it would not be in this ward.

 

David Brazier added a report on the efforts of the Government to get local authorities to fulfil their obligations and provide sites.  The report suggests that gypsies are hard done by and should be integrated into communities.  The rural exceptions policy says that the usual green belt policies do not apply to gypsy caravans and the KCC think that the report is hugely imbalanced in favour of travellers.

 

 

181        SCHEDULE OF ACCOUNTS

 

RESOLVED that the schedule of accounts, as submitted, be approved and payments made accordingly.

 

 

The meeting ended at 10.05 pm

 

 

 

Chairman

 

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